Episode 87: Remembering Dolly Parton
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>> I know.
>> Which is both terrifying and
entertaining simultaneous.
>> We talked about meaning and purpose. And
this we we haven't you and I haven't
talked for a while. You've been away.
And while you were gone, we lost a great
human being. We've lost many of them
obviously, but we lost Dolly Parton. And
I wanted to talk today about meaning and
purpose and Dolly Parton. Now, I have to
admit, I was not particularly a country
lover, country music lover, but but you
had to love Dolly Parton.
And there's a piece in today's New York
Times written by David French
about Dolly Parton. And it just struck
me and I said, you know, let's talk
about Dolly Parton. So, let me just read
a little bit about what he said and then
you'll understand why I really wanted to
talk about this today because it's
important.
He says, "The books arrived like
clockwork once a month. They were often
wrapped in transparent paper so that you
could see at least part of the cover.
The return address readmagation library
and I'd immediately know where it came
from.
We raised our kids in Tennessee and so
we're among the first families with
access to Dolly Parton's literacy
program for young people." She started
the program in 1995
in Sevir County and by 2000 she took it
national. If you signed your child up at
birth, you got one free children's book
per month every month for 5 years. The
books were part of our lives for more
than a decade. Amazing.
Imagination Library
would represent the legacy of a thousand
lifetimes. In 2018, its 100 millionth
book was given to the Library of
Congress. In 2023, it gave away its 200
millionth. And by 2024, one in seven
children under the age of five in
America was receiving a book every month
from Dolly Parton. Today, it's one in
six.
And then she started Dollywood. And he
says, "It wasn't just families who went
to Dollywood, it was schools as well. My
kid's small Christian school took every
sixth grade class to Dollywood. It was
their reward for finishing elementary
school and was a highlight of the year.
When you get older still, you learn more
about who Dolly was. She helped build
hospitals. She gave immense sums of
money to fund disaster relief. When
wildfires tore through the Great Smoky
Mountain region in 2016,
she provided $1,000 per month to every
family in Sevir County that lost a home.
She then surprised each family with a
$5,000 final gift. In April 2020, when
the COVID pandemic killed tens of
thousands of Americans in a single
month, she gave $1 million to Vanderbilt
to help fund the research that led to
the Madna vaccine.
Even with all that, we may never know
the full extent of her philanthropy.
She was an amazing amazing woman. And I
thought, let's talk about that today
because you and I talk a great deal
about how much we get out of giving.
This is a woman who gave everything.
Let's What What are your thoughts? You
and I haven't talked about Dolly or her
death or anything else. What are your
thoughts, Doc?
>> Well, uh, interesting. My wife is a fan
of Dolly Parton. Uh I know probably less
than you do about country music although
my wife knows fair amount. So she
periodically uh will mention it and when
obviously when Dolly Parton passed away
it was a big deal. Uh in fact the other
day she uh turned on I walked in the
room she had one of her songs playing on
her phone.
>> Yeah.
>> So she obvious
and I I knew about the books. I knew
that she had given away I didn't realize
it was 200 million. I knew she had gi
she had the program to give books away
but I had no idea it was that extensive.
So what do I think? I think this is an
amazing person. You know this is you
know there are a lot of famous people
but uh and a lot of them do good things.
You know a lot of people have who have a
lot of money give it away. We've
interviewed some people like that. But
this is exceptional and and it and she
wasn't you know beating her chest about
this during her lifetime. right? Like
most people had no idea, you know, they
knew she sung country songs. They
remember n the movie 9 to5 and some
other uh projects she had done obviously
Dollywood. Um but
>> I don't think most people had any idea
the extent of this cuz I didn't like I
said I knew about the books but I didn't
know about the rest of it. So
>> yeah, I think this is this is such a
great lesson for so many people and when
we lose people like this obviously it's
sad because the the the world is
diminished, right? when you lose, you
know, we have 8 billion people on this
planet, but when you move when you lose
somebody like her, the world is suddenly
diminished, cuz the impact was so great.
And you know, you hope that people would
read about this and and then be
motivated to do what they can, all of
us, every single one of us. You know, I
just got off the phone call before we
recorded this podcast uh with a group
with that I teach a course for. And you
know we the conversation ended up at a
place of um what we call bias in
medicine. Other words um there's this
big there's been this big push for a
long time about bias in medicine that
you can't recommend product A over
product B and so on which of course when
you look at it it misses the forest for
the trees because a lot of times product
A is better than product B. drug A is
better than drug B or you know whatever
and we lose the focus we lose the
concept that and I'll tell you why I'm
why I'm why why I've taken this little
diversion we lose the idea that at the
end of the day we're taking care of
people right the only thing that counts
is is this good for people it's not the
rules that are important it's not
because you know in a bureaucracy you
create a bureaucracy and you are going
to get a pile of rules right you create
uh a committee an organization a
department you are going to get rules
rules because that's what that's what
you've charged these people to do and
they're going to do it. They're going to
do it up the wazoo, right? And a lot of
times you end up with these rules that
are just so stupid that that they miss
the forest for the trees because again,
what are we trying to do here? So in
medicine, we're trying to make people
better. That should be the determining
factor. Does what you're doing, does
your medication, does your treatment,
does your technique, does it make
patients better? Does it help people?
That's the important thing. Not whether
it crosses all the tees and dots all the
eyes and follows all the rules. we got
lost in this. And so what Dolly Parton
when I think about this I think you know
this is a person who ignored all that
stuff and just said what is best for
people and she went out and did it and
to the extent I was unaware how the
depth of her philanthropy and her
goodness and her kindness but
>> that's the thing we this is what this is
the thing we need to remember from this
is that always focus on what's best for
the people what is best for your fellow
man woman and child
>> you know there's another piece of this
that's fascinating to
Um it there's a um a writer his name is
Michael Harriet. He's from South
Carolina. He after Dolly Parton died. He
posted this. He said, "Here's a quietly
wonderful thing I noticed. If you talk
to someone who was in a choir or a band
at a majority black high school, you'll
eventually discuss those annoying
fundraisers that they have for the
uniforms or instruments." And a
surprising amount of people would say,
"Oh, these uniforms. Oh yeah, Dolly paid
for them. She paid for the uniforms of
kids in high school
who didn't have enough money at black
schools who didn't have enough money for
the uniforms. She never told anybody. It
was not a big to-do. She never let it
out. She singlehandedly
paid for the uniforms. This is a woman
who was colorblind. It didn't matter to
her what color you were. It didn't
matter to her what religion you were. It
didn't matter to her whether you were
straight or gay or married or single. It
didn't matter to her. What mattered to
her is exactly what you're saying.
What's best for the people? What can I
do to help other people? And so, we've
been talking for months and months about
meaning and purpose. Look at the meaning
and purpose in her life. I mean, this is
the kind of thing that maybe in these
fraught times in which we live, maybe we
ought to think about more often. We We
take our politics too seriously. I know
I do. You get mad at me when I do. But
maybe if
>> I never get mad at you,
>> but you know the whole thing. But maybe
what would Dolly do and what Dolly did
for humanity will continue because she
has a charitable um organization and
they will continue to give out books and
they will continue to do those kinds of
things. But maybe what we need to do is
to step back and think what do we do?
How do we not only find meaning and
purpose in our lives, but how do we then
transition to helping others find
meaning and purpose in their lives?
>> So, I don't know if you saw a video uh
in the last two days of a father at a
soccer game. Did you see that? A
football game. You see this?
>> Unfortunat the one who who tripped the
kid.
>> He tripped the kid. Okay.
>> Yeah, he sure did.
>> So, why why did he trip the kid? So,
let's look at this for a minute. So, is
this a horrible human being? No, this is
not a horrible human being.
>> No, probably not.
>> This is a this is a horrible This is a
guy who saw
some what he considered an injustice
everything the other just go with me for
a minute. I'm not defending this in any
way. It was 100% wrong. Let me say that.
Okay. But it tells us a little bit about
our society. It's a window into our
society, right? So, a he he he
>> Well, tell tell back up. Who was what
tell the story?
>> So, here's what happened. a video short
video of a football high elementary
school I think it's elementary kid was
nine they're nine year olds or
elementary school kids and they had a
football team and one team was playing
another team and the the opposing player
that the team that that the father's kid
was on the opposite team the the team
that his son wasn't on one of the kids
was was running the football and he's
about to run in for a touchdown against
his son's team and the father jumps in
off the sidelines runs runs out and
trips the kid, you know, on purpose. You
could see it. He kicks him, right?
Knocks the kid down. And anybody with a
brain goes, "What?" But to me, it was
interesting. It's terrible. But to me
was interesting. I mean, what possessed
this guy to do this? If you live in a
world where winning is everything, where
you're taught that winning is
everything, that uh how rich you get,
how famous you get, how powerful you
get, that these are the things that are
that are the goals of life. and that
winning is part of that. Then you're
going to do things to make sure that you
win, right? Or that you don't lose,
right? But imagine a world that was that
was created by Dolly Parton, which she
says, "No, the important thing is how
you treat other people." You know, if
you're blessed to have the ability to do
so, you go out and you give millions,
probably a billion dollars at the end of
the day for books, for hospitals, for uh
disaster relief, and you and uniforms.
You do these things because it's you
have the opportunity to do that. So that
because she knows she knew and of course
I say she knows because all time exists
contemporaneously and the truth is we
haven't lost Dolly Parton. Dolly Parton
is still playing on every record from
the moment she was born to the last day
of her life. That's her lifespan. Those
records are still playing. She's very
much alive in those moments. But in this
moment she's no longer on the records
that particular today's record. She's
not on on this record. But it doesn't
matter. All the records previous she's
still she's still alive. So I will
talked about her in the present tense,
right? But she knows that why she's
here. She knows that the purpose of her
life on earth is to evolve from selfless
to self, from selfish to selfless, from
inward to outward focus. This woman was
the aerial view on steroids, right? She
got it. She understood her purpose. She
understood her meaning. And she said, "I
don't need to I'm having a great time
singing songs and writing songs." She
was very talented. I mean, the woman is
very talented. Even if you don't like
country music, I mean, I've written
probably 20 25 songs in my life. She's
probably written hundreds at least. And
every one of hers, even the worst ones
were better than than the best one I
read wrote. I'm sure
>> I don't think Whitney Houston ever
recorded any of Mark Klein's work. But
>> she's talented and I can appreciate that
as somebody who really, you know, who
has written music. I go, well, I I
didn't write I I couldn't write 9 to5, I
don't think. So, you know, the point is
she was very talented in so many ways.
And yet what was really the focus of her
life we it turns out that what you just
read about she got it she figured it out
very early and now she had a very tough
childhood and I from what I understood I
don't remember all the details but you
know but even so she never let anything
that happened in the past here's another
message you know whatever trials and
tribulations she had in her life and
there were many she didn't let that stop
her she didn't say well I deserved more
I you know I had to suffer this I was a
victim of this or that I deserve more
I'm going to take care of me. No. She
said, "Well, whatever happened happened.
That's in the past. That's a great
message. It's in the past. Why are you
worrying about it?" And she spent her
life focused on helping other people in
addition to being a great entertainer. I
mean, that's that's a home run. That's a
grand slam, right? That's that's that's
it. So, what a what a what a lesson for
all of us to follow in that. She she's
she's a perfect example. And I'm sorry
that she kept it such a secret in a
sense. She's humble, but wouldn't it be
it we we how can I put this? I wish
people had known this all the way or at
least maybe some people did, but I
certainly didn't. And I'm going to guess
that the majority people didn't
understand how incredibly philanthropic
and generous and kind she was with her
money and her time. So that's the
message. She, you know, Dolly Parton, be
be Dolly Barton, right? That, you know,
that's that's a great message.
>> I'd like to talk about that point. You
said you're sorry she didn't let that
out. I'm not. I think if you really she
she gave it away and didn't it didn't
matter. She didn't do it for the
applause. She didn't do it so somebody
would you know put put her name on a
building or anything like that. Um and
there are those that do. I mean we have
lots of things that are dedicated to
people who are who gave the money. And I
tell me why you think you you saw and
she didn't let everybody know that.
>> Only because she's a great it's a great
role model. It's a great story. You
know, you know how many people love
Dolly Parton's music and her and her her
ability to entertain in the movies and
concerts, records, etc.
>> And so she had a huge following, huge,
huge following. You and I might have not
have been, you know, the greatest
country music fans, but we knew Dolly
Parton. I mean, it was like nobody,
somebody said, "Who's Dolly Parton?"
Everybody knew who Dolly Parton was. And
so if Dolly Parton, it was more and I I
I respect her, believe me. I'm not
trying to say she should have. I'm just
saying it would have been
>> there would have been an advantage to
that that to people say oh well Dolly
Parton did that Dolly Parton did that
Dolly Parton gave that created these
books 200 million books Dolly Parton
gave all these uniforms to these schools
Dolly Parton put it gave all this money
for disaster she donated to the co
research wow you know if she and perhaps
she you know it's not her style and I
would never criticize but I'm not
criticize I'm just saying you know I
wish somebody like that I wish would be
a little more vocal and say be like not
say be like me but just by doing it and
letting people know, by the way, you
know, I I I have the ability to do so. I
So, I'm funding this book program for
kids and one in six kids in America is
going to get a book for free, right,
every month for five years, right?
Right. So, that's what I mean. I mean,
that's I wish we knew more about that
part of her in addition to the fantastic
entertainer and musician that she was or
is.
>> Yeah. But now, yeah, a couple of things.
It's interesting to me. I was thinking
on the day she died that that people
were literally in mourning. I can't
imagine one human being and maybe I'm
wrong but that could literally bring the
world together. I mean they at I at
Buckingham Palace the guards the the the
royal instrument people whatever they
are actually stood outside of Buckingham
Palace and played 9 to5. I mean she was
a worldwide phenomenon
and interestingly enough people didn't
even know the half of what she did. So
this to me is is is the legacy that will
carry on and carry on and carry on and
the kind of thing that we ought to think
about well what can I do? Obviously I
don't have the kind of money she had. Um
I don't know I don't I personally don't
know anybody who does. Um, but she grew
up in a two- room shack,
>> right,
>> in Severe County, Tennessee, and 8,000
people in the thing and never
complained. This is just who she was.
Now, the other thing, you and I didn't
live in a two room shack in Seir County.
We We were blessed. But so was she. And
poverty didn't even mean that much to
her. She got out of poverty and decided,
I'm going to help those who are in
poverty. What a blessing to the world
this woman was. You know, I mean, when
we talk about meaning and purpose. I I I
think that's the role model that that
defines meaning and purpose.
>> You know what else I would say, Enid? I
agree with everything you said, but
somebody like her, you know, the old the
uh the New Testament, you can teach a
man, you can give somebody I'm going to
get this wrong, but you idea fish,
right? Yeah.
>> Yeah. If you keep, you know, you can
give somebody fish, but if you teach a
man a fish, they can eat forever, you
know. I I I don't you know you get the
idea. I'm sorry I did that. I'm not I'm
not good at quoting scripture but
>> um
imagine Dolly the real message for Dolly
from Dolly Parton. Not the real message
but one of the messages from Dolly
Parton is not only be give you know be
philanthropic help others things we and
I talk about all the time but teach
others how to be like her. In other
words she came from poverty. She had a
lot of issues when she was young. Her
life wasn't easy. But you don't she was
never a victim. She never said woe is
me. She fought her way out of it. She
worked super duper hard to get where she
is and where she was and and what she
accomplished. And that's really the
message, right? And then once so because
we have a country full of victims and it
is so sad because because the only
people they have,
how can I put this? In many in some in
some instances many instances when
you're young, you have no choice. If
you're the victim, you have either
suffer in poverty or abuse or something
else in your family. But once you get of
age, right, and you have control over
your own life, then everything that had
before you can go away. You don't need
to carry it. And I'm always reminded by
one of my favorite scenes in any movie.
It's in the Lion King, the original Lion
King movie. And you remember the monkey
who was uh I think it was a monkey who
was uh you know the um what's the
Simba's uh good friend and near the end
of the movie he's saying you know I I I
don't know if I can go back I don't know
if I can do this and you know this
happened to me when I was you know I was
young and and the monkey whacks him over
the head with a stick and somebody goes
why did you do that and he goes what do
you care it's in the past and that's the
point if it's in the past it doesn't
matter you are not a victim of the past
nobody is by the what when you reach
adulthood and even earlier than
adulthood you have the ability to say to
decide who you want to be and how you
want to live you are not tied the past
should not define you and but and you
don't take my word for it Dolly Parton
is a great example of that and she's not
the only one you know there are many
many people in history who are like that
who were not defined by the past and
wouldn't let the past define them and
went on and made and had fantastic lives
that had impacts on millions of people
and Dolly Parton has had an impact on
billions of people probably you know in
so many ways. So that's the that's the
other message not only to be
philanthropic and care for others and
take care of others. That's a very
important message to evolve from selfish
to selfless right from inward to outward
focus. The other message is is that a
variation of the Victor Frankle rule.
You are complete control of how you
feel. You're complete control of what
happens in your life once you get to be
an adult. You are not bound by what
happened to you in the past. You are you
are free to become the person you want.
You are free to steal the traits of
those people you admire and dump the
traits of those you don't or those you
carry with you. You can reinvent
yourself at any time. Everybody all
successful people reinvent themselves.
You find a successful pe person, that
person has reinvented themselves.
Everybody can do it. It's available to
everyone. And the problem with with this
victim mentality we have in this country
is it holds everybody back. You become
tied to this past that doesn't allow you
to become a Dolly Parton. Now you don't
have to be that doesn't mean to become a
super wealthy f world-class famous
singer but there are gradations of this
you are do not let the past hold you
back that's the other message she is
teaching us so there's so much to learn
from this woman I mean right you you
gave me no sometimes you give me a
little hint of what we're going to talk
about not this time zero I think we're
talking about going to talk about belly
parton heck no but I'm so glad you do
this because it's such an instructive
>> lesson for all of us in so many ways
>> talk to me a little bit we we did a
podcast once on reinvention and and I
liked that one. Tell me a little bit
more about what you mean by reinvention.
How did she reinvent herself? And have
you reinvented yourself?
>> Oh, tons. So, I can't really I can't
speak for Dolly Parton. Unfortunately, I
never got to meet the woman. That's a
that's you know, you know, I always say
I wish I had missed met so and so or
some other person. She's obviously
another person
>> I think everybody would have liked to
meet. I know my wife would have liked to
meet her also, but you know, it didn't
work out. still um so I can't comment on
what she did but I can tell you about my
life right so
>> uh I've reinvented myself every time I
changed schools meaning when I went from
elementary school to middle school we
call junior high school to high school
to college even medical school and even
when I started my career I reinvented
myself sometimes dramatically sometimes
in small incremental ways because
because and the reason I tie that to my
schooling is because when you go from
one school to another you're going to
meet new people that didn't know you.
So, you're not no longer tied to some um
reputation that you might have had even
as a kid, you know. So I you you know I
was I was uh one of the smallest if not
the smallest male in in our class and uh
shortest I should say and the certainly
if not the youngest second youngest I
think maybe but so I was small and young
right and that had a huge effect on me
early on and at one point I said you
know what I don't have to be
seen as the youngest and smallest I can
I can do something else and so we
changed to the next school I tried to do
that and each time I remember when I got
to college Um, I had a roommate my
freshman year and I was almost two years
younger than all everybody in our in my
freshman year of college as I was in
high school. I was almost two years
younger. So that's a big change. You
went, you know, different between 16 and
18. It's a big difference, right? So I
was so I had a lot to learn and my
roommate was 18, I was 16. Um, and I
thought this guy was so cool, but so
smart, you know, cool in a he was cool
in a cool in a way that I would
appreciate, you know, not, you know,
wearing sunglasses and, you know,
smoking cigarettes and listening to to
blues. He was cool cuz I thought he was
so smart and he was very measured and he
was very calm and none of the things
that I was at that time. And I thought,
hm, I [clears throat] want to be more
like him. And I so I grabbed some of his
traits and I started to try and
inculcate them into my personality. One
of my best friends in life was also I
met in college. He was another guy who
who was cool as a cucumber and he he
became a doctor, a surgeon. Perfect job
for him because I've never seen this guy
get flustered. And uh I watched him and
I said, "I need to be more like that."
So I would pick up traits from different
people and say, "Oh, I like that trait."
And there were traits I carried over
from my childhood that I really didn't
like. And it took me
>> a long time to get rid of some of those.
And some of them still linger on
obviously, you know. But the point is,
you could be whoever you want. It's not
illegal to steal traits from people you
like. It's perfectly legitimate. It's
not cheating. It's smart, right? It's a
smart way to be. Every famous person,
you know,
>> has has reinvented his or herself. I
guarantee it. Right? And Dolly Parton
did it. She reinvented herself. like you
know you because she came from she came
from nothing and she became this elegant
superstar. Well, that took some
reinvention. Don't you think?
>> Yeah.
>> I give you another one. Taylor Swift.
Now, I don't really
I have I've never met her either. I have
tremendous respect for Taylor Swift.
Why? As do I.
>> Cuz she's written all these songs, the
music, the words. She taught herself how
to play guitar. She's, you know, she's
she's a a talent. And it's all Nobody
gave it to her. She worked for all of
it. Whether you like her music or not is
irrelevant. But what if she did at one
point? She was a country singer, right?
And then one day she said, "Hm, I think
this would work better if I was a pop
singer."
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> So, so literally overnight she said, "I
think I'll be a pop singer." She
reinvented herself. Now, she reel
professionally and I'm sure along with
that came some other things, personality
traits that probably maybe not
consciously but also changed.
Reinvention is a super powerful tool. I
recommend it to everybody. It is never
too late. No matter how old you are,
find traits in people that you like. Get
rid of the ones you don't. Reinvent
yourself.
>> Become Dolly. One thing I will say about
uh Taylor Swift, and we're at the end
here, but she's also a philanthropist.
So, I think if there's a modern day, I
shouldn't say modern, I should a younger
version of Dolly Parton, I actually
think it's probably Taylor Swift. Well,
with that, let me end with um back to
David French's column about Dolly and
then um you'll have the final say. He
said here the south is America's most
church-going region. But when I think of
Dolli's life, I think of a concept from
Judaism, ton alum, which means repairing
the world. Repair can be literal and
physical. The money she gave rebuilt
homes and put clothes on people's backs.
But it can be spiritual as well. You can
repair a heart and soul with love.
That was Dolly Parton. Last last words,
Zach. What do you say?
>> I say that what this country needs, what
this world needs is to understand why
we're here. That's what's holding us
back. You've heard me say this many
times. If we don't if we don't uh agree
on on meaning and purpose, we will never
arrive at a set of rules and regulations
by which we can all live. And we see
that now in our politics. So the missing
link is why in the world are you here?
And you know our what we talk about a
lot is you're here to make this
evolution from selfish to selfless to
inward to outward and focused. That's
what Dolly Parton did. That's what she
spent her life doing being outward
focused be being generous and giving.
And when you when we agree on that
purpose uniformly throughout our society
then it's much easier for us to agree on
the rules and regulations by which we
want to live because we have shared
values at that point. we have a shared
goal, a shared mission, and that's how
societies succeed. When societies don't
have that agreed upon mission, those
shared values, then they won't agree
upon the same set of rules and
regulations, and you have chaos and
turmoil, which is exactly what we're
seeing now. And Dolly Parton had it
right. She figured it out. She knew why
she was here. She knew what her purpose
was. It wasn't confusing to her. She was
very cleareyed about it. And she
executed on her mission perfectly. And
that's the lesson we need to absorb into
our society if we're gonna if we're
going to get over this hump that we're
this this this difficult period we're in
right now. Dolly the Dolly Parton of the
world can can show us how to do it.
>> Yeah. I think this whole notion of
repairing the world is so important and
and she really did. She made huge
inroads in repairing the world and and
uh I I I guess the reason I wanted to
talk about her today was I I guess in my
own way I wanted to thank her for for
being a huge part of the lives of every
person in this country and what she's
done for kids. And when you think about
these young kids who got these books
from, you know, until they were five
years old. I mean, what what an amazing
thing. And and I guess the way we start
repairing the world is with those kids.
those youngsters who got something that
they never expected and maybe they're
the ones who are going to repair this
world. I hope it's sooner rather than
later.
>> Only only if we teach them the right way
and right now we're not doing that.
That's the problem. We're not teaching
them that there's a that there's that
there's a mission in this world that
they have a purpose that their lives
that they're here for a reason, right?
And we don't teach them that anymore.
The churches, the synagogues, the m
mosques, this is where this used to
happen. Certain in schools, this is
where this used to happen. And of course
at home it's not happening. Our kids are
not adequately educated and certainly
not educated to to the concept of
there's a purpose to life. And and again
until we agree on that, until we accept
it and and embrace it as a as a as a
national community, we're going to
continue to have the issues we have now.
But the solution is easy. It's not that
hard. Understand why we're here.
Dedicate your life to helping others.
[music] And there you go. and Dolly
Parton. I'm so glad you you suggested
that because she is the perfect example
of that [music] idea.
>> That she is. With that, I thank you for
an interesting conversation and one that
was totally [music] unexpected on your
part.
>> I can't thank you enough, Ena. This was
great. I thoroughly enjoyed it. You're a
genius. Anyway, thank you all for
listening. We'll see you [music] next
time.
>> Peace.